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This is not so germane to the main point, but I think it's probably not true that the Odyssey movie shows the persistence of Woke or the illusory nature of the vibe shift. It appears to be genuinely very unpopular and will likely lose money. The same happened with the SuperGirl movie recently, while indie horror films that are perceived as non-woke or even anti-woke at some level are making >100 ROI. People really don't like the race swapping that goes beyond the bounds of plausible suspension of disbelief, nor female superheroes if they have unpleasant personalities, and they don't like ironizing of hero narratives if it's too heavy handed.

1990s Bill Clinton liberalism commands huge popular support; people really want it despite the inability of elite or MHC factions to organise around it.

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>Another thing you notice is that the Greek word polytropos (lit. ‘many-turned’, both ‘much-travelled’ and ‘variously-shifty’; perhaps ‘multifarious’, ‘recourseful’) is causing some of the translators real problems. Fagles’ ‘man of twists and turns’ is quite good, I think, apart from its lack of formulaic versatility, but I cannot say the same for Lawrence’s ‘various-minded man’ or Fitzgerald’s ‘skilled in all ways of contending’. Wilson’s ‘complicated’ might just stand as the best solution of the four

A straightforward option in german is "vielseitig". Its typical english translation (used in that very paragraph) is "versatile". This even has the right etymology, but its not transparent to most people. I think these two work well if they are transparent - they normally apply to tools, and have a definite user-perspective to them, but using them on a person would move out of that and to a more literal sense. You could capture that literal sense in english directly with "multifaceted" (pretentious) or "many-sided" (archaic feel, but Im sure Ive read it before).

(I found poly- as a common paradigm interesting. I wonder if Saruman first was polychromos in Tolkiens mind.)

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