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Thomistic Mishima's avatar

The tradition of chengyu is one discovery I most appreciate in my brief and dilettantish study of that civilization.

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G. T. A. Ogle's avatar

if musical styles are somewhat of a guide, I think there may be a mistake in discounting memorization. We find that you always start by memorizing -- this happens because some phrasing isn't as easy to get correct, so you memorize that. But then what happens is, like with memorizing words and letters, you get to a certain point where you grasp the language of it more intuitively, and even to the point that you can _bend_ the rules. So memorization is always involved on some level, but as a stepping stone to really grasping the style, provided you have the capacity to move beyond simple imitation of the phrases/forms.

One other thing here is that rather than attributing the loss of oral poetry strictly to the emergence of writing, I think it partly dies due to the success of some great poets; jounglers beat out improvisators when copying the "best" is better than improvising, so the process of "meritocracy" ends in a "bloom", after which the plant dies.

I suspect that oral traditions would sometimes die pre-writing because an oral poet's particular formulations became so beloved that people simply imitated them, copying them as nearly as possible (probably favoring shorter works;) and spent time memorizing things exactly rather than understanding the meta-language of the improvisation. This is precisely what I think has happened to European Classical Music; most of the composers were part of a formalized compositional tradition (one version of this is called 'the Aetlier method' iirc) that had them memorizing formulas for cadences and common melodic ideas until they could make compositions themselves, and the best of them could improvise whole pieces. This tradition was always attached to the through-compositional tradition, not because the music was written or there was no improv (or that free improv wasn't something all of these masters could do) but because ensemble requires coordination and you can't coordinate if people are doing things that conflict beyond a certain level. So if you are doing vocal imitation, it's possible to improvise a theme-variation on a motet, but not with four singers, who may know the same language of phrases, but may make choices on the fly that break the harmonic sounds. So in this tradition you have a combination of improvisational sections or pieces and through-composed ensemble work, which for most of the history sat side by side unmolested! I think this is because the way in which music was taught involved teaching one to compose using formulas which create that meta-language, which equipped all trained musicians to both improvise and through-compose.

Something of this sort is possible with poetry.

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